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>>> plus the nra's double down. the organization's ceo says if it's crazy to arm police in school, then call him crazy. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment instrument in this town. >>> but first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off, the president urged congress that pass a scaled-back stop-gap measure. >> senators agreed on sunday to pass -- >> i think unfortunately there will only be a small deal. >> it is going to be a patch. >> kristin welker, traveling with the president in honolulu. the question is will he be cutting hi vacation short? does he have a royal to play? or is it up to the senate, as some are saying? >> reporter: first of all, i think it is likely we'll see him cut his vacation short. senate majority leader harry reid, minority leader mitch mcconnell will have to
>>> plus the nra's double down. the organization's ceo says if it's crazy to arm police in school, then call him crazy. >> i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment instrument in this town. >>> but first eight days until the fiscal cliff deadlines, through the has of congress not a creature is stirring, not even a lawmakers. hopes of a deal are fading. before taking off,...
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and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to suggest to a nation that a sort of rising up for action, that the answer to to many guns in our society is to put an rnl aed guard in the class room, i think that wayne la pierre has a problem within the country but also within his organization. >> suarez: he pointed out that when you put up a sign that says gun-free school, this he is a gun-free school zone, that you are telling anybody who might want to commit an armed crime there, that they can come on in and no one will shoot back. >> i must tell you, i mean he was speaking in english but be
and i have been watching the nra for a long time. my dad was a gun deal never colorado, among other things. and you know, i sort of know that nra members are basically mainstream folks with mainstream views on guns. and the nra is normally a smart organization or thought to be. but today's statement is probably the best evidence of i have seen that the organization has a serious political positioning problem. it was incoherent it was factually incorrect. and it was so politically tone deaf to...
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. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns from one to another privately. it doesn't matter. >> i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. and if you want to follow me on twitter, you jest need to know how to spell smerconish. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> back to "hardball." the washington post assigns a certain number of pinochios to politicians that might be factually challenged. we were part of the big ones saying that je
. >> the problem is not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation, as usual, in this country. normal people don't shoot peel. >> but what i'm trying to say is that the mentally ill have free access. the new york times had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the f.b.i.'s recordkeeping pertaining to those who have mental illness. >> listen, michael. the nra -- this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they are opposed to...
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shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now. >> you won't believe what the nra wants to do to our schools. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> today's biggest reaction came from the protest that broke out at the nra press conference. fred says interesting that the nra is talking about security while being unable to secure its own press conference. jodi asked will the nra never admit that assault weapons are not necessary and kill countless people? our fans also love this photo of the president observing a moment of silence for sandy hook this morning. derold said i prayed that we can learn how to resolve problems without the use of guns. we want to hear what you think, too. please, head over to facebook and search po"politics nation" d like us t
shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now. >> you won't believe what the nra wants to do to our schools. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> today's biggest reaction came from the protest that broke out at the...
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two words for the nra. score this. >> senior obama advisor david axelrod blasted out e-mail to campaign supporters yesterday that linked them to a video of the president eulogy from the new township victim at two places alongside the video box. visitors were encouraged to donate money. one asking for $5. >> bret: see how that gets reaction all over. james, thank you. republican governor rick snyder vetoed legislation to allow concealed weapons in churches, schools and daycare centers. he said the public venue need clear legal authority to been a the firearms. "if they see fit to do so." still ahead, imagine five days in syrian captivity. the foreign correspondent lived through it. lawmakers await benghazi review. [ whistle blows ] hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick me, that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with country vegetables, poured over rice! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. >> bret: checking international headlines now.
two words for the nra. score this. >> senior obama advisor david axelrod blasted out e-mail to campaign supporters yesterday that linked them to a video of the president eulogy from the new township victim at two places alongside the video box. visitors were encouraged to donate money. one asking for $5. >> bret: see how that gets reaction all over. james, thank you. republican governor rick snyder vetoed legislation to allow concealed weapons in churches, schools and daycare...
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biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the answer, more guns. everywhere. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors. at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left as sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> for some, too many guns are never, ever enough. let's get right to our panel now. with me in new york is richard wolffe who's the v.p. and executive editor on msnbc.com and ari melber. there was almost the acknowledgment that this wild use of assau
biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the...
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is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a lot in the months prior about this being sort of the sticking point, the threshold, but nancy pelosi was on record. she was on charlie rose, speaker boehner's office points this out, saying, look, let's just raise taxes on millionaires. is it difficult for house democrats to walk that back now that they've been on the record saying that? >> not particularly. i mean, we understand the gop is very good at their communication strategy. they'll say this was nancy pelosi's plan. this was chuck schumer's plan. they say they won't even support a tax cut for those making a
is that an a rating from the nra or an f rating in the nra? >> the phones should be ringing off the hook. emails should be going crazy. members of congress and plenty of republicans have people in their districts who will be harmed by this deal. they need to hear from them, and so i think it's so important that groups continue to mobilize people, not just talk in the media, but mobilize their people to express their outrage. >> as far as this million dollar threshold, we've talked a...
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a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok. grandma? hi sweetie! she operates the head. [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. we've decided to we're all having such a she great year in the gulf, put aside our rivalry. 'cause all our states are great. and now is when the gulf gets even better. the beaches and waters couldn't be more beautiful. take a boat ride or just lay in the sun. enjoy the wildlife and nat
a lot of people waiting to see what the nra is going to say. that's going to wrap up this hour of jansing and company. i wish you and yours the measure iest holidays. tom ast picks up our coverage next with beau biden. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. i got your campbell's chunky soup. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a...
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we are putting a huge amount of pressure on congress, legislators, on the nra. you can go to the website, 1 million moms for gun control.org right now and sign a petition and people are asking for gun control laws that we have crashed the servers many, many times and we are optimistic that, you know, after not doing anything, after aurora and gabby giffords and virginia tech, we will get some action this time. >> in 2010, the brady center to prevent gun violence gave president obama a "f" rating. do you think that now is the time for the president to be able to -- to control this issue in a more positive direction, when i talk about control this issue, i mean the sentiment and the emotion that goes in to all americans responding to what we saw in newtown. >> you know, i don't think he has a choice with 80 million american moms coming at him. we have done nothing before and hasn't worked. i think the nra and frankly many congressmen laid out what they see for us in the country where the bad and good guys are armed and duke it out over our kids' heads. we won't al
we are putting a huge amount of pressure on congress, legislators, on the nra. you can go to the website, 1 million moms for gun control.org right now and sign a petition and people are asking for gun control laws that we have crashed the servers many, many times and we are optimistic that, you know, after not doing anything, after aurora and gabby giffords and virginia tech, we will get some action this time. >> in 2010, the brady center to prevent gun violence gave president obama a...
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do you think the nra will support any gun control legislation? go to facebook.come/newsnation to cast that vote. thank you so m we'll see you tomorrow, friday. "the cycle" is up next.
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we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to have a gun. where do they get that from? there's one line in luke where jesus says buys a sword and he's speaking metaphorically and he tells him not to use sword. where do people get this notion of a god-given right to guns? >> they don't get it from the religious traditions. they get it from various elements of political culture that simply have no place in our religious thinking. we're created in the image of god. all of our major traditions embrace that principle. nothing defiles the image of god as much as pointing a gun at a small child and pullin
we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to...
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prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our children, we have a responsibility to try it. >> that statement builds on the president's call for congressional action early next year. >> i will be putting forward very specific proposals. i will be talking about them in my state of the union and we will be working with interested members of congress to try and get something done. >> vice president joe biden is leading the push to draft those proposals, and yesterday he began that effort, meeting with law enforcement officials and cabinet members. i want to go right to you, michael eric dyson. you saw as much
prosecutor lead an nra effort for that program. look, this was not a press conference because will pierre refused to take questions from the assembled reporters. he was interrupted twice by protesters criticizing the nra and advocating -- >> there's a petitioned on the white house website calling for more semiautomatic gun control. >> i will do everything in my power as president to advance these efforts because if there's even one thing we can do as a country to protect our...
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the nra needs to face the truth." okey moronu says " no matter what the entertainment media did, the nra provided the tools for the perpetrators to execute their plans. get rid of the guns. and the nra has blood on their hands, and anybody associated with them will suffer politically. keep sharing your thoughts with us on our facebook page and twitter using the #edshow. >>> still to come, the fiscal cliff stalemate could cost john boehner his job as house speaker. but let me tell you, there are millions of unemployed americans out there. it could cost them their benefits and a lot of pain. that's ahead. stay with us. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." nobody likes a scrooge, and i've got the numbers to prove it. darden restaurants, ever heard of them -- the umbrella corporation behind chains olive garden and red lobster, well, they did their best to avoid providing their workers with health care. now they're paying the price. here is the story. back in october, the company launched an anti-obama care experiment. darde
the nra needs to face the truth." okey moronu says " no matter what the entertainment media did, the nra provided the tools for the perpetrators to execute their plans. get rid of the guns. and the nra has blood on their hands, and anybody associated with them will suffer politically. keep sharing your thoughts with us on our facebook page and twitter using the #edshow. >>> still to come, the fiscal cliff stalemate could cost john boehner his job as house speaker. but let me...
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the nra will be holding a press conference. they released a statement that said the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra? what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would just be best for them -- >> you mean they'll support some gun restrictions. >> i think they will absolutely. >> when have they done it before? >> i can't say but -- >> when have they done it before? they have never done it before. >> they never have, but when they say they want to give some meaningful contributions, they mean it. >> they'll talk about mental illness, possible checks on mental illness, the video culture of our society, they'll talk about everything but guns. your thought, ron. we have to get out of here, but i don't have any co
the nra will be holding a press conference. they released a statement that said the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra? what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would...
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let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has more exposure in this debate, i mean if the president read off those things in the state of the union, do you think that would drive a wedge between the average gun owner and the nra's national agenda? >> it would start a debate. look, it's not the job of reporters to carry one side of an argument. if the nra is making an argument and no one is making one against them, it has a consequence for the debate. what the gun control side has lacked for a long time is a powerful grassroots group that actually has the muscle and the money to force the conversation, to force
let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has...
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the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition, people magazine that has the faces of all those kids on the cover. as time goes on, parents will write a book about their experience. we come to know more about their children. it's not going to go away. it touched such a nerve with people, they are against something that is very different from the past where they could die down and go back to business as usual. i think this is something that touches on every parent's worst nightmare. it's not going to go away. with the strategy, the game is different now. >> i want to reiterate that wayne lapi
the nra is more aggressive in opposition. you saw after the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, they got aggressive. it was before staying your ground was passed. they banned cities. they got aggressive really quickly. they are still more aggressive than the other side. >> i truly believe, i still believe the vast majority of americans across all affiliations are reasonable people. the tragedy in newtown wasn't a true game changer. on my way down here, i saw the new edition,...
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. >> shame on the nra. >> there are those who blame the national rifle association for consistently, powerful lobbying against gun control. they have been consistently silent until now, and some expected they would seek compromise. none of it. instead, raw fury, blaming video games, the culture. >> we have blood-of films out there like "american psycho," "natural born killers." that are aired on saturday. fantasizing -- of killing people as a way get your kicks -- the filthiest form of pornography. >> taking no questions but unable to avoid the protests of first one protester but then another. >> the nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. >> he argued passionately that guns were not the problem but the solution, calling for armed police in all of america's 100,000 schools. >> the only thing that stops and a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away or from a minute away? >> the politician introducing the bill as a ban on assault rifles was not impressed. >> is this the answer -- t
. >> shame on the nra. >> there are those who blame the national rifle association for consistently, powerful lobbying against gun control. they have been consistently silent until now, and some expected they would seek compromise. none of it. instead, raw fury, blaming video games, the culture. >> we have blood-of films out there like "american psycho," "natural born killers." that are aired on saturday. fantasizing -- of killing people as a way get your...
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the nra -- we didn't elect them. you guys didn't sign a pledge to the nra. the republicans -- why are they signing a pledge to a person like grover norquist. i think you are absolutely right when you look at the polling and what the american people want that would be the important thing to realize is that the nra is not all howerful right? >> yeah, and i think the domination of the republican party, the moderates are extinct in that party, anybody that attempts to draw some consensus or compromise is not tolerated, and that extreme branch of the party who basically has been running the show i think their brand is worn-out and it's worn-out because now you have a cumulative effect of lack of policies, lack of oversight, lack of gun control, the threat of the -- we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you make all of these draconian cuts, congress unfortunately made the deal, and here we find ourselves at this cliff again. that's what is really at stake here? >> stephanie: but let's talk about that separately in a moment, but is that going to happen w
the nra -- we didn't elect them. you guys didn't sign a pledge to the nra. the republicans -- why are they signing a pledge to a person like grover norquist. i think you are absolutely right when you look at the polling and what the american people want that would be the important thing to realize is that the nra is not all howerful right? >> yeah, and i think the domination of the republican party, the moderates are extinct in that party, anybody that attempts to draw some consensus or...
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the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have here is, you know, we've got guns, assault weapons that the military would normally use. we've got those in our neighborhoods and in our schools. we can't have that. he talked, mr. la pierre of the nra, talked at length about the monster that is are in our society, but he really, andrea, didn't talk about how we make sure those monsters don't get the guns. i haut it was an effort to try to put forth a solution, but that solution is very, very limited. he never talked about these high capacity ammo clips that are not needed unless you're killing -- trying to kill a lot of
the nra, you heard the statement. more guns. guns in schools perhaps. mike bloomberg has just issued a statement saying the nra's washington leadership has long been out of step with its members and never has it been so apparent as this morning. their press conference was a shameful invasion of the issues facing our country. >> i agree. saying that we are the simple solution is to have an armed guard in every school just they basically skirted the issues. one of the major issues we have...
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we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> for 30 minutes lapierre went on a tread that was steadfast, unyielded and trying to blame violence on the insane monster that is pop late our society. but it turned into a glimpse inside the mind of the man who makes the nra, the lobbying arm of the firearms industry, tick. it was easily the most riveting, chilling and revealing
we'll have more on the nra in just a moment. right now i'm joined by tom kotz, kaley elkins, rich lucivella of "s.w.a.t." magazine, and jackie kellens. thank you for being here. they promised, quote, meaningful contributions to stop gun violence but in a press conference in which the organization took no questions, the executive vice president and ceo wayne lapier's only contribution was his call for armed guards inside all of the nation's schools. >> i call on congress today to...
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they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown had been armed, they would have survived. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left at sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> earlier this month nra ceo wayne la pierre warned members to get prepared for a massive effort by the white house to take away guns. >> we are about to be victim of a siege against the second amendment in this country going into obama'
they have continued to broadcast nra news. it is a show owned and operated by the nra and it appears online each day. last night host jenny simone led her program by responding to jay carney's announcement on the president's support for a new assault weapons ban. >> more gun laws are not the answer and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the show then went on to rail against gun-free school zones saying if the teachers at newtown...
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what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation. the conversation is around specific measures like criminal background checks on all gun sales. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales and our message today is really to them, to the nra members, you know, like president obama said, nra members are mothers and fathers, too, and we all grieve over this terrible tragedy and we all grieve over the 32 to 34 murders that happen every single day in our country, and there are things we can do about it and that's what we hope the nra is going to focus on as well, but it'
what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation....
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>> the nra also retained asa hutchinson, former u.s. attorney, congressman and homeland security official, to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group could, said could be tailored by any school to suit its% individual needs. lou. lou: james, the two sides in this gun control debate, are now, if you will forgive the expression, they're arme up and going at it and getting ready for major confrontation. is there any compromise available in this, in this debate? >> as with the fiscal cliff it doesn't appear readily discernable, lou. president obama released a video message vowing to fight for new gun control laws early next year. the down tours of this debate are already taking shape as leading democrats are pressing for renewed assault weapons ban and for new limit on semitick ammunition magazines. a leading senate democrat says she favored schools being allowed to have armed guards if they so choose but she then cited the columbine massa
>> the nra also retained asa hutchinson, former u.s. attorney, congressman and homeland security official, to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group could, said could be tailored by any school to suit its% individual needs. lou. lou: james, the two sides in this gun control debate, are now, if you will forgive the expression, they're arme up and going at it and getting ready for major...
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the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually endorsed by the nra. so clearly, as congressman john yarmouth told us yesterday on ""full-court press"" politicians no longer have to be afraid of standing up against the nra and for sensible gun control. my final comment for today folks. tomorrow's show, we'll be joined in studio by congresswoman rosa delaro and by senator john eudal. go out and have a great one. we will see you back here tomorrow morning. >> this is "the bill press show." deep. like me. [ male announcer ] head & shoulders deep clean for men. ♪ ♪
the nra officially opposes it. the second reason, it's more and more apparent, also, and more and more clear that politically, the nra is nothing but a paper tiger, opposition from the nra is nothing to be afraid of. this year, for example, according to media matters, the nra spent $11 million trying to defeat president obama. they lost. they spent over $100,000 in seven senate races. they lost six out of seven and two-thirds of house incumbents who were defeated this year in 2012 were actually...
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the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claims the civilian automatic firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the 223 round is one of the most popular calibers when all of these claims are factually untrue. they don't know what they are talking about. worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law imposed on peaceful lawful people will protect us where 20,000 other laws have failed. as brave and heroic and as self- sacrificing as those teachers were in those classrooms and
the nra has blood on its ads. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra ban assault weapons now. ban on assault weapons now. stop killing our children. stop the reckless behavior of the nra. we need gun control now. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonizes the gun owners, amplifies their cries for more laws, and fills the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking that only delay meaningful action in all that guarantees the next atrocity is...
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ramp the nra is calling it a national school safety shield program. it says it will help recruit and train volunteers to help guard students. if congress gets arm protection, so should our children. armed guards at all u.s. schools. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed officers in every single school in this nation. >> reporter: that's the plan and today the nra says it wants it in place by the end of winter break. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> reporter: it estimated 10,000 sworn officers are serving in school around the country. most of them are armed and employed by local police departments. president of the international association of chiefs of police called the nra's proposal unworkable given the how long numbers of officers who would be needed. >> the nra has blooden its hands. >> reporter: after cameras caught protesters interrupting the comments twice, wayne lapierre attacked the national media saying it reports killers with wall to wal
ramp the nra is calling it a national school safety shield program. it says it will help recruit and train volunteers to help guard students. if congress gets arm protection, so should our children. armed guards at all u.s. schools. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed officers in every single school in this nation. >> reporter: that's the plan and today the nra says it wants it in place by the end of winter break. >>...
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>> nra, stop killing our children! it's the nra and the weapons killing our children! >> code pink protesters disrupted the press conference twice, holding up signs saying the nra is holding our kids and nra blood on your hands. the nra is also blaming the media for allowing violent culture to come into children's homes. other critics of the nra say instead of being part of the solution, the nra is pasting the buck. >>> one week after the shooting, people around the nation caused today to remember those who lost their lives. there was a moment of silence and bells tolled in remembrance. >> dawn hochsprung, principal. [bell tolling] >> bells rang out across connecticut at 6:30 a.m. our time. the names of the those -- the name ofs of those killed -- the names of those killed, bells tolled to remember them. bells tolled at washington massacre. before the ringing of various faiths gathered to speak about run violence. >> there was also an online online moment of silence for the shooting victims. a green ribbon was posted. companies taking part included aol, huffington post
>> nra, stop killing our children! it's the nra and the weapons killing our children! >> code pink protesters disrupted the press conference twice, holding up signs saying the nra is holding our kids and nra blood on your hands. the nra is also blaming the media for allowing violent culture to come into children's homes. other critics of the nra say instead of being part of the solution, the nra is pasting the buck. >>> one week after the shooting, people around the nation...
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i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the fbi's record-keeping pertaining to those who have a mental illness or -- >> listen, michael. >> real quick. >> this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they're opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns to each other privately, not through gun stores. so it doesn't matter. >> i was shocked by that. i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. stick around with me for side show and if y
i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had...
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it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table off the top here. i watched that press conference or that statement with mounting horror and anger, but i was also aware that a lot of people in america would have watched it and said he's right. >> yeah, people will say that the answer to every escalating sort of violent act in america is the ability to use more violence to counter that. and it never stops. so you're going to give a security guard a regular gun against someone who has an assault weapon. so when the assault weapon overpowers the regular gun, you give the security guard in the school an assault weapon, where does this end? it doesn't end.
it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table...
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nra's chair says all of them should be checked. higashidori is the third one to come under question. nra inspectors looked at the ohi plant in central japan. they ordered its operator to conduct an additional probe saying cracks below the plant could be active faults. the inspectors then turned their attention to another plant which is close to ohi. they concluded cracks beneath it are highly likely active faults, and that one of them runs right below a reactor. >> what happens once they make that conclusion? >> that's a great question. japanese law prohibits the key nuclear facilities on faults so in theory, the two plants should be scrapped. but plant operator dispute that conclusion. the problem is, there are no laws or guidelines dictating the process for shutting down the reactors that sit on active faults. existing law states it's up to plant operators to decide whether or not to scrap the reactors. 48 of japan's 50 commercial reactors are offline right now. the ongoing democratic party-like government said it wouldn't allow
nra's chair says all of them should be checked. higashidori is the third one to come under question. nra inspectors looked at the ohi plant in central japan. they ordered its operator to conduct an additional probe saying cracks below the plant could be active faults. the inspectors then turned their attention to another plant which is close to ohi. they concluded cracks beneath it are highly likely active faults, and that one of them runs right below a reactor. >> what happens once they...
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the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks on what la pierre has said. but again strange silence we have had all week specifically from the republican leadership on, you know, it's what's next as far as getting in the whole dialogue of sensible gun controls and other aspects of really the whole problem that we all agree needs to be reexamined. >> thank you, hampton. sue? >> you got it. >> michelle, as you know, we are awaiting president obama's news conference. he is expected to nominate senator john kerry as next secretary of state. well take that live when it does occur. plus, with the fiscal cliff follies upon us, how do you protect your p
the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks...
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how did the nra end up like this? >> to bar a cliche, this is not your father's nra. the history it used to be more of a sporting group. it supported gun control in 1934 and it supported or endorsed a certain kind of gun control in 1968. it is only since the 1970s that the leadership the nra has hijacked by this radical group that you know, really, you know, engages in the kind of fearmongering and paranoia -- even glenn beck would blush at some of this stuff which is hard to believe. they do it -- i mean it fueled rise in gun sales in ammo sales. ammo sales went through the roof when barack obama became president because they told their members he was going to confiscate people's guns and they're still pushing this message. this puts more money into the pockets of the gun companies and the gun companies funnel that money back to the nra and they use that to outspend gun control groups on lobbying and political fund-raising by 10-1, sometimes by 25-1. >> eliot: you're making a hugely important distinction which is that the nra perhaps is no longer representing its mem
how did the nra end up like this? >> to bar a cliche, this is not your father's nra. the history it used to be more of a sporting group. it supported gun control in 1934 and it supported or endorsed a certain kind of gun control in 1968. it is only since the 1970s that the leadership the nra has hijacked by this radical group that you know, really, you know, engages in the kind of fearmongering and paranoia -- even glenn beck would blush at some of this stuff which is hard to believe....
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right, friday the nra will talk in public for the first time. should be very interesting hear wlag they have to say. dan lothian, thanks very much. >>> it is 6 past the hour. the grief and good-byes continue today in newtown. four more funerals will be found for teacher vicky soto and three of the slain children, daniel barden, caroline previdi. with the community still in mourning, students in newtown went back to school. everyone but the sandy hook kids who will return after the winter break to school in a neighboring town. sandra endo has that part of the story. >> reporter: the first day back to school in newtown. children returning to classes tuesday and the painful reminder of those who could not. on the bus ride to school, grief was a constant reminder. >> i noticed it was quiet because people were thinking about the tragedy that happened. >> reporter: at schools teachers and students spent time to reflect. >> they just talked about how things will get better than they are now. i felt safe because when your teachers talk to and comfort yo
right, friday the nra will talk in public for the first time. should be very interesting hear wlag they have to say. dan lothian, thanks very much. >>> it is 6 past the hour. the grief and good-byes continue today in newtown. four more funerals will be found for teacher vicky soto and three of the slain children, daniel barden, caroline previdi. with the community still in mourning, students in newtown went back to school. everyone but the sandy hook kids who will return after the...
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and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more people, and arming more school officials which is just insane. arming teachers, arming--i don't know what. but if that's really the way they go, i think it's going to be so self marginalizing and so self-discrediting. you're right there was a poll this summer, i'm sure that's what you're alluding to, about n ra members and two-thirds of them believe there should be restrictions on the semiautomatic and automatic weapons. two-thirds of the nra members. but the nra leadership, they're holding out for the most extreme element. if that's where they want to go and if that's where all the repu
and the membership of the nra the majority of the nra members would agree with you. we're experts sports men hunters we don't need the magazines with those types of bullets. what would wayne la pierre say on friday when they lift their vow of silence and speak to us. what do you think they'll say? >> i don't know. that's a big question. the only hint we got was this little online chat that they had on their website. in which they made some noises, incredibly enough, about arming more...
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his number one target the nra. >> what would you like the nra to know? >> that i think the public has finally come to the conclusion we are going to do the this whether you like it or not and connecticut is because of some of their actions. >> you hold them responsibility. >> i hold you and me responsibility. we didn't pay attention to what our legislators were doing. we have let our society, our country degenerate to the point where we have a murder rate that you cannot compare it to other countries. you can't put it on the same scale. >> the nra believes that it is working in the best interest of the american people. >> i don't know. they are not supposed to do that. they are supposed to work in the best interest of gun owners. they don't have a responsibility for the american people. they are paid for by the gun owners. there's nothing wrong with that. it is the rest of us that cave in to them that are irresponsible. >> a lot of people will be surprised to know fur on the no fly list, you can't fly but you can buy a gun. >> absolutely. >> he says for
his number one target the nra. >> what would you like the nra to know? >> that i think the public has finally come to the conclusion we are going to do the this whether you like it or not and connecticut is because of some of their actions. >> you hold them responsibility. >> i hold you and me responsibility. we didn't pay attention to what our legislators were doing. we have let our society, our country degenerate to the point where we have a murder rate that you cannot...
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the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all these congress members, all these senators, they do not run as national politicians. they run in a state or in a district. and what matters to them is how the people feel in their state or district. and what is driving these polls up right now, in large part, is a really tremendous outpouring of sentiment from, yes, some moderates in the middle, but also tremendously by people who already live in largely democratic areas, places that already favor more gun control. that probably makes very little difference to a lawmaker who comes from a state that does not feel that way, bro
the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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mansion has an a rating from the nra. that could change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. >> were they angry? >> not at all. not at all. they're family. they have children. they have grandchildren. you think everyone in america's not hurting? >> that was nancy cordis reporting. >> the nra deactivates its facebook page and has remained silent on the tragedy. please stay with wjz for complete coverage. we will keep you updated on the victims and investigation. >>> an altercation inside an east baltimore school lands one woman behind bars. it happened at the national academy foundation preparatory school. the woman forced her way in carrying a birthday cake. workers say she claims she was visiting a relative but didn't have permission to be there. during a confrontation she pulled out a knife. >>> investigators are trying to determine the cause of a two alarm fire in baltimore county. fite broke out at a home on the 200 block of ashwood road in dundalk. two children escaped after noticing flames. n
mansion has an a rating from the nra. that could change now that he's come out in favor of some form of gun control. >> were they angry? >> not at all. not at all. they're family. they have children. they have grandchildren. you think everyone in america's not hurting? >> that was nancy cordis reporting. >> the nra deactivates its facebook page and has remained silent on the tragedy. please stay with wjz for complete coverage. we will keep you updated on the victims and...